Discussion Evening/En Presentation on Helsinki RY 11.02.2024 16.08

In the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, we will begin this discussion evening with mutual prayer and thanksgiving.

Dear Heavenly Father, Holy and Righteous God, Father, you have brought us together this evening to discuss together the time of this time and especially our faith life. Let us together be encouraged in our mutual faith. Thank you that we can gather together in the midst of your word. Thank you for your kingdom. Thank you for the loved sisters and brothers of all ages whom you have given us around us. Thank you that we can own the forgiveness of all our sins by the merit work of your Son. Thank you for the love of your Son.

We also pray on behalf of those who suffer because of war, that in these countries where there is war, there would be peace, and that people would not need to suffer. According to the hymn, we pray for peace to all nations. We ask on the election day today, God's blessing to all of Finland, our fatherland and our nation. And we remember the president who will be elected today, that he would receive wisdom from you to work as the president. Thank you. Bless our government and lead them so that they would govern according to your word. Call also those who are outside of your kingdom to your kingdom. You know, dear Heavenly Father, our thoughts. You know us from our innermost. Be with us, even this evening, through your Spirit. These we ask in the name of Jesus. Amen.

I received about a month ago from Juntunen a text message, and he asked that could I come here today to keep an introduction on the subject of prosperity and individualism in our time. And he was encouraging for me to begin writing this introduction as I received some instruction, and also received full freedom to use my own understanding, and I began to make my own decisions. I... it is nice to be here in Helsinki. I remember when I was here as a youth in Helsinki, and I attended the theology evenings that were kept here at the RY. And I have since moved elsewhere and now have been retired since last fall.

And you can now see the subheadings. I will not go through them one by one. There will be a hymn that will be sung in the middle of this introduction.

First, what the Bible says about prosperity. In the Bible, in Deuteronomy, Moses speaks to Israelites, the Lord your God will give you abundant success in all that you do. You will have many children, your livestock will multiply, and your land will produce great harvest. The Lord will again rejoice in your prosperity, as he rejoiced in the prosperity of your forefathers.

In 2 Kings, in the Old Testament, prosperity is linked to the presence of the Lord and doing His will. The Lord was with Hezekiah, and he prospered in all that he did.

In 1 Samuel, prosperity cannot be achieved by one's own efforts. Hannah, the mother of prophet Samuel, says, He will guard the feet of his saints, but the wicked shall be silent in darkness, for by strength no man shall prevail.

God's care for the people of Israel: When the Pharaoh of Egypt became concerned about the Hebrews' reproduction, he ordered the slaughter of the male children. The Hebrew midwives wanted to be obedient to God and spared both girl babies and boy babies. God allowed the midwives to prosper, and the people multiplied and became very strong because the midwives obeyed God. This is from Exodus.

Moses was faced with two choices. As the son of Pharaoh's daughter, he would have had all the temper, good, and success within his reach, but he saw the better option of keeping his faith. And from Hebrews, because Moses believed when he grew up, he refused to pretend to be the son of Pharaoh's daughter. He preferred to share the sufferings of God's people rather than gain a passing pleasure from sin, for he regarded Christ as a part of the coming reproach, as a greater treasure than all the treasures of Egypt, for he fixed his eyes on the reward to come.

It is told of Jacob how he can regard his success as his own merit. Jacob had experienced God's blessing and success. Jacob also found himself in a wrestling match with God. He found himself weak and in need of mercy. He did it to hear the blessing, I will not let you go unless you bless me.

The Bible tells the story of Joseph, who was given a special place in his childhood home by his father. Joseph became envious of his brothers and was sold into slavery in Egypt. After many stages he rose to prominence in Egypt. He kept the faith and did not resent his brothers. He saw in his own life the guidance of God. Joseph's obedience and humility were a blessing to his brother and to the Egyptian people.

Then, the fourth commandment contains a promise, Honor thy father and thy mother, as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee, that thou mayest live long and prosper in the land which the Lord thy God hath given thee.

However, the Bible tells us that even a believer in God can face severe trials. The most famous example of this is Job, whose life was full of good and happiness, but also of great suffering.

Job pondered the part of the wicked. To God the wicked say, Stay away from us. We don't care about your ways. They think, What is the Almighty? Why should we serve him? What is the use of asking him for help? They believe that success is in their own hands. Their thoughts are far from God.

As Asaph wondered why even the wicked can succeed. He expressed his disappointment and found himself in spiritual crisis and deep doubt. I envied the wicked when I saw them succeed. They never had ailments. They are healthy and fat. They do not have to toil like other men, nor are they chastened like others. This is from Psalm 73.

But Asaph found the right priorities in his life. Asaph said, I am the only refuge on earth. He went to the sanctuary of God with children of God and saw his life in the perspective of eternity. Temporal life is like a dream. He sang, In heaven I have you. You are my only refuge on earth. Though my body and soul languish, God is my rock, my portion forever and ever. But it is my joy to be near God. I will trust the Lord my God. I will tell of all his works.

The way of the sanctuary is a mystery in the time of my resurrection. And when I said it, The Lord frowned in disbelief and told to me, a great accuser, Why have you come to our dwelling? Where have you come from? I will be here with you. You There is no tomorrow.

Historical accounts: continued success could lead a man to imagine himself great and to take privileges for himself. This is what happened to King David who fell into sins of fornication and murder.

David's son, King Solomon, was allowed to make requests to God and wish for anything. He said, Give me an understanding heart so that I may know how to rule and judge your people and to separate good from evil. God was pleased with this request and gave Solomon great wisdom for which he became famous throughout the world at that time. He received a temporal good and lived glorious life.

Apparently Solomon forgot the giver of all gifts, God. He took wives for himself and foreign nations against God's advice. Solomon began to worship idols and his heart turned away from the living God.

Then we approach this prosperity or success word from another perspective. Basic human needs according to Maslow.

Success, prosperity and power have fascinated man since the beginning of time. What do we mean by success today? Many of us do not want power and glory. A reasonable standard of living is enough for surviving at home or at work in everyday life. And to get along with ourselves.

There is no precise definition for prosperity. Temporal success is usually described as the achievement of fame, celebrity, wealth or social status.

Does everyone aspire for success? In 1943 the well-known American psychologist Maslow proposed the so-called hierarchy of needs. According to this, a person must satisfy his needs in a certain order. The lower level of needs must be satisfied enough for a person to move to the next level.

Maslow has classified human needs in such a way that the lowest level covers physiological needs. That is, you may need food, you need to maintain an appropriate body temperature and breathing. This level maintains vital functions.

The second level includes needs for security, stability of life. We have something to do for work. We have health. We have safety. We do not need to be afraid. And then there is also peace.

The third level is the need for cohesion and social needs. We want the company and friendship of other people. We have a need to express and receive love, to belong to our community and to be accepted.

A comment here: it would be good if all believers could receive love and feeling of acceptance.

The fourth level is the need for recognition. We have a need to feel valued. Again, reputation and the standout from social group. Maslow includes self-esteem and self-respect in this level.

Then there is the fifth or the highest level. This fifth level contains most difficult goals. They relate to our moral and spiritual development in our search for meaning in life.

For some humanity and some nations, even the lowest levels are not satisfactory. They lack everyday food and security. They live in constant fear and stress. For some, all efforts are directed towards survival.

We live in a welfare state where most people at least meet their physiological and security needs. Yet there are people among us who experience deprivation or threat of violence.

My interpretation of these two highest levels is that they are not necessarily the highest levels. The needs for worth and self-fulfillment describe success or at least good life at the individual level.

The level of esteem does not necessarily require that one gets fame and fortune. It may be enough that our opinions are listened to and respected.

The highest level or self-fulfillment can also be achieved by doing something creative or enjoyable hobby. At the highest level, there is also the third level. The highest level is the courage for meaning in life.

To apply the theory loosely, I think that the person who finds comfort in the redemption work of Jesus is no longer searching, but has found the deepest meaning of life. Even if one's lower needs are inadequately met, faith gives life a deeper meaning.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus spoke of the basic needs of eternal life when he spoke of the poor and the hungry. He said, Blessed are the poor in spirit. They are blessed because they have the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness. They will be fed. From Matthew 5.

Third portion: Blessing of work. In closing, whatever you do, do it with all your heart as you would do it to the Lord and not to men.

The book of Jeremiah exhorts, work for the good of the city to which I have transferred you. Pray to the Lord for it. For its prosperity is your prosperity.

It is rewarding to be recognized for a job well done. It gives us approval and appreciation of supervisors and co-workers. Our professional self-esteem grows and we may move up the career ladder.

As such, success over time, success in our time is a good thing. In welfare state, prosperity and success benefit all citizens in terms of tax revenue.

There is an old saying that everyone is the maker of their own fortune. The meaning of this phrase is that prosperity in life is all about you. It says that we influence the prosperity and difficulties we face in life with the choices we make.

Life is not that straightforward. Regardless of our choices and aspirations, unexpected things can happen to us that turns our lives around. Serious illness or death of a loved one can put a halt or even the best laid plans.

God's plans take its place. We realize that the only maker of fortune is God who guides the course of our lives at every stage. Even prosperity comes from the hand of God.

If we see it only as our own merit, we may develop a lack of understanding and a harshness toward our less fortunate neighbor. We run the risk of thinking of ourselves better than other people.

In Romans 12 it says by the grace which has been given me, I say to each of you, think no more highly of yourselves than is reasonable. But keep your thoughts within the bounds of moderation, each according to the measure of faith which God has given him.

The work of the kingdom of God, especially the holding of services around the world and in our home nation, has brought great blessing. God is our employer.

The success of the work of the kingdom of God is far more important than temporal success. It aims at eternity.

Everyone can contribute to the work of God's kingdom with their own gifts. The work of the kingdom of God is a source of faith, goodwill and friendship.

We are God's weak servants as we sow the seed of God's word. Paul writes what is sown in insignificance will spring up in glory. What is sown weak rises full of power in 1 Corinthians.

And Paul also writes in 1 Corinthians I planted Apollos water but God gave the growth.

It is a good thing if we have the opportunity to help those in need and in distress. The humanitarian work and resource bank run by the SRK are good channels to help our neighbor.

The state church foreign aid and the Red Cross and many other organizations also can channel help to those in need.

And then we have the opportunity to help those in need.

We move into the features of individualism. According to Wikipedia, individualism is the basic trend of early liberalism and modern humanism. It is a worldview that values individuals rather than communities.

Individualism emphasizes personal achievement how you can build your own life. In an individual-centered culture, the role of the self is to empower and enhance one's status. An individual's money and possessions are his alone.

In contrast, a member of a communal culture is aware of and accepts the norms, but the individual who emphasizes his freedom lives under the illusion of choice.

In an individual-centered culture, one is allowed and also obliged to fulfill oneself even at the expense of other people. Other people are only instruments and serve the individual's own interests.

We see the effects of individualistic culture in the world around us. In an individual-centered culture, the individual becomes a god.

Our times are also characterized by a focus on appearances and self-fulfillment without regard for others. For example, the individual becomes a god when he or she is in a relationship.

From a living faith perspective, there are alien aspects of individualistic culture. In Old Testament times, this was not the word for individualism. However, in the life of King Saul, for example, one can see how his self-interest took precedence over everything else.

Saul began to think highly of himself. He wanted to do his own will instead of God's, and sought the glory of the world.

Riikka Linnanmäki reflects on the different aspects of community and individual-centered culture in her Bible Miss blog. Both cultures, community and individual-centered, have a lot of good and valuable features.

In an individual-centered culture, I value democracy, well-functioned support and service systems, freedom of religion, equality, and in general, freedom of expression.

Sometimes this freedom can also go beyond to the permission of sin, and in the end, it is no longer freedom, but a dark struggle under the increased enslavement of the enemy of the soul.

Even in such a situation, it is permissible to turn to a merciful God and pray for the grace of repentance.

We need each other and the Church of God to help us in our lives of faith. God's word calls us to love God and our neighbor as ourselves. This includes caring for our neighbor and seeking the common good.

A living relationship with God's Church and the home congregation is important.

And the fifth part, individualism is reflected in the interpretation of Bible and faith. Individualism is also reflected in spirituality.

Many people, in this age, want to form their own understanding of their own faith. It need not be based on the written word of God.

The Bible is often no longer a supreme guide to faith and life for those who call themselves Christians.

The doctrinal interpretation of policies of our state church also seem to be determined by factors other than the word of God.

For example, the biblical teachings of sexuality and its practice is considered by the mainstream to be hopelessly outdated.

Liberal theology is individualistic and thus values personal religious experience more than doctrine, the authority of the church or the interpretation of scriptures.

According to it, the relationship and understanding of God changes over history and therefore no religious truths are set in stone as each person's personal experience may reveal a new view of God.

Liberal theology has also gained strong foothold in our state church.

The authority of the Bible is questioned in liberal theology. It is a form of theology that supports same-sex marriage and the ordination of women as priests.

Uniformal humanism removes human sinfulness and renders Christ's atoning work useless.

There is also a belief and also an unbiblical spiritual teaching called the theology of success.

According to this theology, the right kind of faith guarantees persons' temporal success and health. Poverty and sickness are believed to be the result of weakness of faith.

New spirituality emphasizes the free and individualistic choices people make.

The diversity of new spirituality is also reflected in the fact that many of the movements within it seem to be characterized by the development of the well-being of the self of their mind.

Our brother Erkki Alasarala has given a good presentation on this subject and can be found also in the pavimus.

Then moving on to part six, as an individual in a community as part of a group of saints.

In the midst of an individualistic world, we can live in the midst of the church of God. This community cannot be seen with the eyes because the boundaries of the kingdom of God run from heart to heart.

We have not missed anything important.

The disciple Peter once asked Jesus, What about us? Have we given up everything and followed you? Jesus replied, Truly, whoever may be a believer for my sake and the gospel has given up his house, his brothers or sisters, his mother or father, or children or fields, will receive a hundredfold now in this age, houses, brothers and sisters, mothers and children, and fields, though also persecution.

And in the age to come he will receive eternal life. But many of the first shall be last, and the last first. From Mark 10.

Martin Luther describes the communion of saints in the large catechism. I believe that on earth there is a small holy group of community consisting of holy people alone. He has one head, Christ, and the Holy Spirit has called it together. He has one faith, one mind, and one understanding. He has many gifts of grace, but it is united in love without parity or division.

I belong to it. I am part of it. I am a member of it. I shall share in all its treasuries, and in its fellowship. The Holy Spirit has drawn me into it and made me a member of it by giving me to hear the word of God, which I continue to hear.

Faith is a personal faith and a common faith in the congregation of God.

The book of Acts tells us how the believers had one heart and one soul. Owning from Acts 4:32 the Holy Spirit was the only one who was the only one who was the only one.

Owning the gospel and believing for forgiveness of one's own sins brings love for other children of God.

Luther teaches that he, therefore, who must find Christ, must first find the church.

And then, Gargason will sing, finish hymn 384, which is translated as We are blessed, truly blessed, if we heed the Father's will.

After the hymn, the introduction will continue.

Okay, part seven. Life cannot be built on the perishable.

Jesus exhorted, Beware of all kinds of greed. No one can build his life on possessions, no matter how much he has of it.

And he gave them a parable. There was a rich man who had a good harvest from his land. He said to himself, What shall I do? My crops will not fit anymore, anywhere.

He decided, Here's what I'll do. I'll tear down my barns and build bigger ones instead. I will put all my crops and everything else I own in them. Then I say to myself, You will live. You have got all the good things in store for many years to come. Now rest, eat, drink, and enjoy life.

But God said to him, You fool. Tonight your soul will be reclaimed from you, and all that you have reserved for yourself. To whom will it go? So happens to him who accumulates wealth for himself, but has no treasure with God. This is from Luke 12.

This parable of Jesus is always relevant. It tells us that it is worthwhile in this age to pursue treasure that is imperishable, not perishable.

He also said, Where your treasure is, there your heart will be.

Jesus once said to his disciples, And do not seek what you should eat or what you should drink, nor have an anxious mind. For all these things the nations of the world seek after. And your Father knows that you need these things. From Luke 12.

In Ahim 4.02 it's sung, Grant that success may not fall from your path, that the world may not make me a slave.

Then part 8 about greed extracts from Bible and the Hymnal.

Paul writes to Timothy, We have brought nothing in the world with us, and we cannot take nothing out of it. When we have food and clothing, we can be content.

Those who want to get rich are tempted and fall into the trap of all kinds of irrational and harmful desires that plunge man into destruction and ruin.

The lust for money is the root of all evil. In their lust for money, many have strayed from faith and brought upon themselves many kinds of suffering. From 1 Timothy.

Jesus said to them, Beware of all kinds of greed. No one can build his life on possessions, no matter how much he has. Luke 12.

From 1 Timothy, For covetousness is the root of all evil, which some have lusted after and have erred from the faith and brought much sorrow upon themselves.

Proverbs 20: The riches which are covetously sought are not in the end a blessing.

Proverbs 28: Greed causes strife, but he who trusts in the Lord will prosper.

Proverbs 21: The greedy will always take, but the righteous will give and not be stingy.

Ephesians 5: You know well that no one who is unclean or impure has any part in the kingdom of Christ, neither does a greedy one, for he is a servant of idols.

Then in him is the kingdom of God.

Proverbs 5: What is our time like? It is a time torn by strife. Selfishly man acts to discriminate against others.

What is money? Goods but dust. All that is hard to get soon loses its value.

And what of power and honor? Like an ear that breaks, a fool quits power, and a fool loses his life.

For the Lord is the Lord, and the Lord's power. Another fool envies it.

What is in fashion? Fading like a moment. A friend cannot be trusted. A brother abandons his brother.

Then part 9. Can I rejoice in my neighbor's success or prosperity?

Temporal success is usually reflected outwardly. A successful person is surrounded by admirers, appreciators, and even envious people.

A good car or a good home can show one's social status.

A person who has risen to a high or otherwise prestigious position in his or her profession is also respected.

Comparison with one another can easily lead to envy.

The Spirit of God leads us to rejoice in temporal success of our neighbor.

If God has blessed with possessions, we do not want to envy him.

We can put aside our own possessions. We can put aside our own vain judgments about the other anyway.

The Lord does not look like man. Man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord sees into the heart. 1 Samuel.

Paul wrote to the Philippians, Do nothing out of selfishness or vanity, but be humble and esteem one another better than yourselves.

Do not seek your own good only, but the good of others also.

And part 10. The order of values in the kingdom of God.

One day the disciples wanted to know who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

Then Jesus called a child to him, put him in their midst, and said, Truly, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.

Whoever humbles himself to become like his child will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

And whoever takes one of these children to himself in my name will take me to himself. 1 Samuel 18.

Jesus also said, Let him who is greatest among you be a servant of others, for he who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.

In performance-oriented society, children are also vulnerable to different demands for success.

Our children need, above all, encouragement, and approval.

In last week's newspaper of Helsinki Sanomat, journalist Emi Maaranen discusses how we support our children's success.

She concludes, If a parent is proud of mere successes and achievements, there is a danger that the child will become attached to such external things and start to see them as the most meaningful things in life.

We should express to our children that we love them for who they are.

We must not load the pressure to succeed onto our children. It can make him or her a compulsive achiever who, even as an adult, tries to gain approval by pleasing others.

Then, part 11. What is the use of all effort for a human being? These are excerpts from Ecclesiastes.

Vanity of vanities, says the preacher. Vanity of vanities is all vanity.

What profit has man from all his labor in which he toils under the sun?

One generation passes away, another generation comes, but the earth abides forever.

The sun also rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it arose.

The wind goes toward the south and turns around to the north. The wind whirls about continually and comes again on its circuit.

All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full.

To the place from which the rivers come, there they turn again.

All things are full of labor. Man cannot express it.

The eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

That which has been is what will be, that which is done is what will be done.

And there is nothing new under the sun.

He who loves silver will not be satisfied with silver, nor he who loves abundance with increase. This is also vanity.

When goods increase, they increase who eat them.

So what profit have the owners except to see them with their armies?

The sleep of laboring man is sweet, whether he eats little or much, but the abundance of the rich will not permit him to sleep.

Here is what I have seen. It is good and fitting for one to eat and drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labor, and which he toils under the sun all the days of his life, which God gives him, for it is his heritage.

As for every man to whom God has given riches and wealth, and given him power to eat of it, to receive his heritage, to rejoice in his labor, this is the gift of God.

For he will not dwell unduly on the days of his life, because God keeps him busy with the joy of his heart.

Remember your Creator before the silver cord is loosed, or the golden bowl is broken, or the pitcher shattered at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the well.

Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.

Then part 12: The order of life clarified by hearing of the word of God.

Money and success do not necessarily make a person happy.

Finland has been voted the happiest country in the world for the sixth time.

The newspapers wrote on February 7th that people living in remote, relatively poor, indigenous communities scored third in the Finns in the happiness polls.

So happiness and success are two different things.

A brother in faith told me, I have been to the poorest slum in Nairobi three times to preach in services.

It is hard to imagine a more miserable and poorer condition, but the believers there are as happy and joyful as birds of heaven, with no worries about tomorrow.

At the service they always dressed in their best, thirsty children of God, thirsty for gospel, ready to serve one another and as preachers.

Jesus' story of the gospel, the story of the poor Lazarus and the rich man.

There was a rich man, his clothes were purple and the finest linen. And day by day his life was all luxury and celebration.

But at his gate stood poor Lazarus, full of stubble. The poor man would have starved to eat the morsels of food that fell from the rich man's table. And the dogs came and licked his corn.

Then the poor man died, and the angels brought him to Abraham.

The rich man also died and was buried.

The rich man was in eternal torment, and he would have liked to warn his brothers and speak of the need for repentance. But it was too late. This was in Luke 16.

Jesus taught in his Sermon on the Mount, But seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be given unto you.

Jesus spoke this to all of us, to those who have not yet found the kingdom of God, but also to us who believe.

It is easy for us to get caught up in all the things that occupy our minds, work, hobbies, self-improvement, and all the pleasures that this age offers us.

Galatians 5 writes, To freedom Christ has set us free. Stand firm, therefore, and do not let yourselves be bound again.

In bondage, the enemy of the soul would like to take away from that freedom. It would like to fix our minds on temporal wealth and fame.

In the midst of temporal business, it is worth remembering that the writer of Hebrews reminds us, We must not neglect the common meetings of our congregation, as some want to do. But encourage one another, and the more you do, the more you will be able to do. Hebrews 10.

Freedom does not mean doing what we like or fulfilling our desires, but freedom also means responsibilities and duties.

Sin takes away freedom and brings slavery.

God's word teaches that faith in God sets you free. It is freedom from sin and from the power of the enemy of the soul.

This freedom is the call even now.

Jesus' atoning work washes away all sin that separates us from God.

From our part, we are corrupted by original sin. We are selfish, proud, and greedy.

The Spirit of God guides our minds to love and care for one another.

Temporal life does not treat us equally. Many may have much anxiety and sorrow in their lives. Others seem to get off easier.

In heaven there is perfect equality. There all followers of Jesus are winners.

We who overcome will put on white robes and will not blot out His name from the book of life.

The Lamb that is before the throne shall separate them and bring them to the fountains of the water of life.

And God shall wipe away tears from their eyes.

Faith also dispels the fear of death and dwells within us.

We know that after death we will go to heaven.

The proclamation of the gospel is often accompanied by the words, Joy unto peace, joy unto freedom.

A child of God knows what these words mean and what they feel like.

The thief on the cross was certainly not one of the most successful in his life, but in his final moments he believed in the forgiveness of sins and was given the prize of eternal bliss.

Greater than all temporal success is to have faith without merits, all sins forgiven.

By grace God has saved you by giving you faith.

Salvation does not come from sin. It comes from God. It is a gift from God. It is not based on human works so that no one can boast.

And if there is someone listening to this introduction who you feel you are not partaker of this grace, you also can hear the gospel that all your sins are forgiven in Jesus' name and precious blood.

I have come here to give this introduction sinful and doubting. Would you preach the gospel to me? So I want to believe together with you.

I will now turn this to the moderator and then the discussion questions can be kept on the question. The questions relating to the questions or then outside of these questions.

The questions are:

First question: Give us this day our daily bread. What does it mean for us today?

Second question: How does the order of life's priorities show up in our lives?

Third question: Is it wrong to be successful? Do we need to be successful? Success in career and hobbies? What are the dangers?

Then the fifth question: God is the giver of gifts. What do we use our gifts for?

Then the sixth one: Do we continue to believe that God is Lord of life and death?

Then the seventh question: What am I thankful for?

Then the eighth question: When has the community of believers, the congregation of God, felt particularly close?

When has the community of believers, the congregation of God, felt particularly close?

Then the eighth question: When has the community of believers as a whole ever been again, a longer experience because way before where to examine and start interrupt.

What do we have to say to this then? The first one: What comes up is the amis. We can't stop as hö inaccurate. That if not. How would you six? That does not matter. How would you six? Probably the easiest. I'm going to pass on. What is the idea of Theerie? This in itself. What's here? Is it one сиг Gin? What exists?

Now there will follow a discussion which will not be translated.